tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post549694797740919050..comments2024-01-04T05:57:26.735-06:00Comments on Education Policy Blog: Hosted by the Forum on the Future of Public Education: Pay Kids to Do Well in School? I Vote YesCraig A. Cunninghamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160288758906798678noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-27744752759313957302010-05-05T20:08:15.026-05:002010-05-05T20:08:15.026-05:00The issue with paying students to get good grades ...The issue with paying students to get good grades is that if students still do not do well in school and are not rewarded they can fall farther down the cracks. Students need motivation and sure money works but for how long will that continue to work and some students may not need the money or want it. We are also showing them that there will be rewards for doing well and in some instances this is true but not in all. Once entering the workplace you are required to do what is asked of you and if you do not meet the expectations you do not get paid; money is not the reward for doing well, keeping your job is.Scott and Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15124983893897369131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-90691814457485871492010-05-01T13:36:56.678-05:002010-05-01T13:36:56.678-05:00I am willing to accept the merits of this program ...I am willing to accept the merits of this program in general, after much debate, but think we need to talk details. Some aspects of this program seem to be working. Other components need to be updated or removed. We need to ask ourselves when creating these programs important questions such as: Do we pay students for good behavior as well as good grades? How do we transfer these funds and does this work over time? What age group has best responded to this program?<br /><br />The research is starting to show some important data. Let's look at this to move forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-54212116644515484782010-04-22T13:01:16.842-05:002010-04-22T13:01:16.842-05:00I prefer no, because elementary school student nee...I prefer no, because <a href="http://marzuki147.byethost6.com" rel="nofollow">elementary school</a> student need to actualization themselves, not to paid.Komunitas Bisa Menulis Blog - WA 0812.134.5587https://www.blogger.com/profile/11921262854893626642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-47988441586780149292010-04-12T20:44:50.979-05:002010-04-12T20:44:50.979-05:00It all depends, of course, on how you do it, when ...It all depends, of course, on how you do it, when you do it, etc. But the basic idea, that work that kids don't want to do ought to be paid as work, seems right to me. <br /><br />Seems like this might especially be effective in high school (although I haven't reread the report). <br /><br />And if they do want to do it, great. I get paid. Does that mean my motivation is messed up? I also support efforts that pay poor parents for doing good things for their kids, families, etc.Aaron Schutzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10667097977144954236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-40545905448133174942010-04-11T23:06:42.398-05:002010-04-11T23:06:42.398-05:00Hmm, Larry Ferlazzo, after starting to read the or...Hmm, Larry Ferlazzo, after starting to read the original report, seems to have come to the opposite conclusion. His post <a href="http://larryferlazzo.edublogs.org/2010/04/10/the-problem-with-bribing-students/" rel="nofollow">The Problem With Bribing Students</a> points out based on the Pink's work (an example is cited above) that what you are getting is compliance on lower cognitive behavior. Another issue that seems to be missing from most of these plans that Larry points out is there is no exit strategy. I think this is because the plans are being devised by economist, rather than cognitive or other psychologist. "Reward" based plans have been used for quite some time to alter student behavior on an individual basis, (ABA is the standard treatment for ASD/Autism, PBS, Positive Behavior Support). They all feature something called "fading" where the re-enforcer is removed, but the desired behavior remains.<br />FYI this Google Login I'm forced to sign in under is not where I blog:<br /><br />Alice Mercer<br />http://mizmercer.edublogs.orgLeroy's Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13839945290918777434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-12199529015683947042010-04-11T15:09:19.758-05:002010-04-11T15:09:19.758-05:00As a teacher who worked in DC school (combined HS ...As a teacher who worked in DC school (combined HS and MS campus) where students were paid on his DC model, most teachers found it to be a complete disaster. Kids did not care about making money for good behavior (something I assume most of them know how to do) or about attendance (again - I think we can assume kids know how to show up). DCPS teachers largely considered it a joke. See http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/fryers-study/ for more commentary.<br /><br />However, in support of his argument on reading, I'd recommend: http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pink_on_motivation.htmljames boutinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09625944306253098621noreply@blogger.com