tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post3995821790286174591..comments2024-01-04T05:57:26.735-06:00Comments on Education Policy Blog: Hosted by the Forum on the Future of Public Education: The Jobs of the FutureCraig A. Cunninghamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18160288758906798678noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-45050520591931907162009-02-04T11:04:00.000-06:002009-02-04T11:04:00.000-06:00I have a graduate degree from Harvard since 2004 a...I have a graduate degree from Harvard since 2004 and it hasn't returned much at all. I am quasi-unemployed right now and haven't been able to find high level or low level jobs. Made me smile when I read your comment about a return from a degree from Harvard as opposed to a small college.Kinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231564233443920525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-20787461258408640032009-01-08T14:33:00.000-06:002009-01-08T14:33:00.000-06:00Colleges and Universities still lacking to play th...Colleges and Universities still lacking to play there complete and concrete roll in spreading education.<BR/><BR/>Muazzam Mehmood<BR/><A HREF="http://www.InfoFanz.com" REL="nofollow">Study Stuff Downloads for Brain Hunters</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.forum.InfoFanz.com" REL="nofollow">Phd & MPhill Discussions over Study problems, new Ideas & Expertise</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.muazzammehmood.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Tutorial: Cryptography & Linux Security</A>Robert Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188522048783908788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-66866334590256028282007-12-10T23:12:00.000-06:002007-12-10T23:12:00.000-06:00All those small private colleges serving the worki...All those small private colleges serving the working class? What colleges are you talking about?<BR/>Second, <BR/>I was on a California Senate committee looking at data like this. While it may be accurate that a skilled auto mechanic needs to understand physics and algebra; it does not follow that this person needs to learn physics and algebra as taught in our schools,<BR/>Often skills and concepts can be learned by a series of practical applications. The Algebra Project has demonstrated this. <BR/>So, while the data may somewhat support the claim, we should not necessarily support the leap that therefore all students should be studying physics and algebra as taught in academic classes.Duane Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01437689584657643858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-9759031096423662372007-12-08T07:15:00.000-06:002007-12-08T07:15:00.000-06:00Sherman, it's not that simple, of course. The ret...Sherman, it's not that simple, of course. The return to a degree at Harvard has skyrocketed. But the return for degrees at all these little private colleges serving the working-class look much different. Like everything else in this country, we have an increasingly class-segregated system. As I understand it, on average the inflation adjusted return on a college degree is not what it used to be. In fact, I was told recently by instructors at our 2-year college that they joke that they are the graduate school for Milwaukee. They noted that more students go to tech school after college than to graduate school. <BR/><BR/>There may, of course, be other social benefits to college.Aaron Schutzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10667097977144954236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-90327994511921053142007-12-07T20:00:00.000-06:002007-12-07T20:00:00.000-06:00Among other problems, Barth confuses the social be...Among other problems, Barth confuses the social benefits of education with the individual benefits of education. Then again, that's fairly common in the public discourse around the human-capital benefits of education: "Because individuals with Degree X make $13,400 more on average than those without Degree X, Degree X must be worth $13,400." That ignores the queueing effect of education: give everyone without a diploma Degree X, and then give everyone who used to have Degree X another degree, Degree Y, and I suspect Degree Y will "be worth" a significant amount more than Degree X. <BR/><BR/>But I think Aaron is exaggering in claiming that <I>more educational attainment has been accompanied by a reduction in good jobs</I>. That implies a hamster-wheel dynamic between education and the economy (everyone just stays in place and sometimes slips back, depending on whether the hamster-wheel is moved), and I don't think that's right, either. Are there overpromises related to the effects of education? Absolutely. But there are still both individual and social benefits.Sherman Dornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00491045214079619658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-807838489933075182007-12-07T19:51:00.000-06:002007-12-07T19:51:00.000-06:00Echoes Sir Ken Robinson's TED talk where he speaks...Echoes Sir Ken Robinson's TED talk where he speaks to the degree inflation we are experiencing now. More reason why I want my own kids to be part of Free Agent Nation.Will Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05971776026580744097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-19026616779535987662007-12-07T15:57:00.000-06:002007-12-07T15:57:00.000-06:00i don't see how we'll get improved wages and benef...i don't see how we'll get improved wages and benefits when wall street execs continue to retire with 200 million pay packages...philiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461587137265412721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21843852.post-46641367848830667852007-12-07T15:35:00.000-06:002007-12-07T15:35:00.000-06:00Summary of citation below, taken from this week's ...Summary of citation below, taken from this week's Ed Links: As educational attainment goes up, the number of good jobs goes down. In other words, more educational attainment has been accompanied by a reduction in good jobs. <BR/><BR/>Take home message: educational credentials are worth less and less over time.<BR/><BR/>In earlier research, we examined long-term changes in the share of good and bad jobs in the United<BR/>States.22 That research found a flat and even falling share of good jobs, and a rising share of bad<BR/>jobs, in the U.S. economy over the quarter century following the end of the 1970s.23 This<BR/>disappointing performance coincided with substantial increases in the educational attainment and<BR/>median age of the workforce, as well as an almost 70 percent increase in GDP per capita, raising<BR/>important questions about the economy's ability over the long-term to convert economic progress<BR/>into improved wages and benefits.Aaron Schutzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10667097977144954236noreply@blogger.com